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hidden -- you know, since nixon first talked about it -- the silent majority. i think that there is... there is a ground swell of anti-obama-ism out there that is set to explode and shock and surprise everybody in the media and on the democrat side. i don't think this is a tight race. i don't think it's nip and tuck like the polls say. you don't -- you don't attack the u.s. economy this way. you don't damage it this way and have people just sit by and say, oh, okay. we have not become a passive people. we are not a passive country. >> greta: nice to see you. >> good evening. >> greta: what do you make of the fact nathere has been an enormous amount of money campaigning against governor romney on bain capital.
and it seems that nothing has happened. they are neck and neck in the presidential tracking poll? >> good news for mitt romney. i think it's good news for the country. i think the negative attacks leveled against governor romney have not been effective. i think that what that tells us is that the american people want the focus to be on jobs and the economy and the personal attacks after bain and governor romney's record... you know, as a -- as a businessman, are not things that the american people are concerned with. they are concerned with what you are going to do to get the economy growing and get people back to work. i think that's an area where the president has come up short. he has not laid out a positive agenda and he has made matters worse. >> greta: if that's true, how come it's tight for months? you know, nothing seems to move the numbers at all. the national number? >> i think it's very tough to dislodge an incumbent. it's always a challenge for a
challenger to make an argument to people that they are to throw out somebody they vote sered for 4 years ago. but i think the american people have concluded that the president, with regard to his policies has made matters worse. i think they have come to that conclusion. i think the other thing about that poll that is really telling, you wage a campaign with a political landscape in the background. there was a question that was asked with regard to the size of government. and 61% of the people said the government is too activist and is doing things that ought ut to be left to private individuals and businesses. that's the highest ever since gallup started to ask that in 1992. that's a real problem for a president who has doubled down on government and made his calling card an expansion of the federal government at the expense of jobs and the private economy. >> greta: i think what -- i mean, what's unusual about the number is that managing the economy, governor romney is basically, it's 2-1, he is
ahead. they are tied nationally. president obama, though, on the question of likeability, he has the reverse numbers. he is 2-1 on governor romney. so it seems like, since it's a national average, it is tied, that the likeable versus the economy. which do you want? someone you like? or someone who can run the economy? >> people are really concerned about the future of the country. they may like the president. but they don't think he's up to the job. they think he's in over his head and they have hadh to look at 3 1/2 years of policies, which have made matters much worse. have you 41 months of unemployment above 8%, 21 million americans under-employed or unemployed. and the poll also said by a margin of 51-33, republicans and independent -- or i should say, republican-leaning independents are more enthused than usual about voting and democrats, 39%
are enthused. this is a problem for the president. the intensity factor is working against him. >> greta: it is hard to find out what the independents are thinking. most people will say, i'm independent. >> right, notice one wants to say i'm biased. some people want to claim a loyalty. but a lot of people are in the fringe and don't want to admit. those are the people who are having a hard time identify hag they want. >> i think -- but i think they are moving away from the president. if you do the bal-- the test on the national level, it's very tight, 1-point margin, probably stays that way for a long time. but when you go beneath the top-line number and start looking into the finer points of the details of that poll, there are a lot of indicators that if i were the president, i would be very concerned about. >> greta: except hain the swing states like indiana and ohio and i think virginia, is that they are all under the national unemployment level. they are below 8.2% nationally.
so simmering behind the scenes, governor romney has to be concerned that the states seem to be on a trend that favors the president. >> we all hope that in all states that the unemployment rate comes down. we get people back to work and the economy starts to grow again. i think there are a lot of warning signs on the horizon, though, that that is not likely to happen. if we wanted to see that happen, we ought to be working on things that actually have proven... are effective at getting the economy going. right now, everything this president is doing and his allies in congress are doing is making matters worse for most pleases. >> greta: and he has to convince the people that the reason the numbers are below average is that they have republican governors. >> that doesn't hurt. >> greta: he will have to use that one. >> in some states, that's true. some states may have an explanation, north dakota, we have energy and that makes a big difference. in my state, we have had a good run with agriculture for a long
time. but in a lot of states with governor who is have been very aggress 95 trying to attract business, create a pro-business, friendly environment with taxes and regulations, you are seeing results from that. that's a good thing. i hope more governors and more states try it and i hope more people do it at the federal level. >> greta: today governor mitt romney shifting his focus off the economy, and foreign policy. governor romney leaves for an international trip. but while he remains on american soil, he is slamming president obama for his treatment of israel. >> since i wouldn't venture into another count tree question american foreign policy, i will tell you right here before i leave what i think of this administration's shabby treatment of one of our finest friends. president obam is fond of lecturing israel's leaders. he was even caught by a microphone deriding them. he's undermined their position,
which was tough enough as it was. and even at the united nations to the enthusiastic applause of israel's enemies, he spoke as if our closest ally in the middle-east was the problem. the people of israel deserve better than they have received from the leader of the free world. and the chorus and the chorus of accusations and threats and inas a results at the united nations should never include the voice of the president of the united states. >> greta: former ambassador john bolton is here, an early endorser of governor romney. what haven't we done for israel? governor romney says we have had shabby treatment. what haven't we done? >> for the first 3 and-a-half years of the obama administration, we have acted like israel building apartments in east jerusalem is the principle tret to peace in the middle-east. we have looked at the wrong end of the telescope. putting the responsibility for all the turmoil in the region on
israel, by relieving the palestinians of any real obligation to negotiate, he's actually set the peace process back. i think that has kind of set a standard. i think beyond that... the treatment of iran's nuclear weaponnings program has been profoundly mishandled. i don't see that as an israeli issue. i think iran's quest for nuclear weapons jays a global threat, but israel is the most immediately affected by it. >> greta: what i think is particularly interesting, he is setting the agend a. vice-president biden had a tweet in which vice-president biden said -- he, meaning president obama had done more for israel's security than any president since harry truman -- >> that's just ridiculous. this is the most hostile president since the state of israel was created. he has demonstrated hostility from the beginning of his administration. those speeches governor romney referred to at the united nations, going back to september
of 2009, where he laid out his view that israel should be confine to the 1967 boundary, the 1949 cease-fire lines, unless the palestinians greed to land waps. this has been very, very restrict identify israel and cost the united states and israel and its arab friends in the region. >> greta: in terms of diplomacy, the fact he hasn't been to israel as president. the first trip was to egypt. there is a lot of chatter about that. does that resonate, does that make any difference in israel? is it symbolic? or is it just something we chatter about? >> it's symbolic with an edge. the fact that the president went to egypt to give a major speech to the muslim world and couldn't find time to slip into israel for a visitue can't miss the symbolism of that. i think it is the broader mistreatment of israel and denigrating its real as an
important ally, not understanding the contribution it has made to security in the middle-east is the real problem. >> greta: isn't it impossible eye interviewed for a charity, former prime minister tony blair, he said as a special envoy, trying to resolve things in the region. he said to me, he told his wife, he had been to the area, since he has been prime minister 83 times. she said, it's not about how many times you have gone, have you gotten any product -- obviously, she was teasing him. >> the same standard applies to the obama administration. after having created a conceptual framework that israel is the problem -- that's fundamentally what it comes down to, that the israeli intransigence, not making more concessions to the palestinians is to peace -- what has he achieved? zip. >> greta: what is governor romney's goal? >> i think he is demonstrating, part of the key point today to
the vfw, that a strong american presence in the world, together with our alliance systems helps guarantee sustained prosperity here at home. and america, under his administration, will treat its friends like friends and the adversaries like adversaries. >> greta: governor romny and benjamin netanyahu have known each other for years. >> going back to boston consulting group. >> greta: 30 years at least. in terms -- let me ask but the trip to poland. he is going from london to israel to poland. what is he attempting to do in poland? >> i expect he will hear from the polish leaders and talk to lec waulenca. he will lorn learn about the difficultyings inside the european union. i think it's a very valuable opportunity to hear from first-class american ally in poland, what the situation in
europe is. >> greta: today, he said he was making his criticism on american soil. i guess that's to tell us, while he's oversea, he won't be making swipes at president obama's foreign policy. >> i think his campaign has made it clear, he will listen n. london, it is not just the opening ceremony of the olympics. a lot of heads of state and foreign ministers will be there. he will have a chance for bilateral meetings. >> greta: there is something to be said, we don't -- i mean, politician it's not politicians, but representatives of the united states are not supposed to make a critical remark overseas. >> i think it's commendable that he will try to uphold that standard. very few politicians still do. >> greta: thank you. >> thank you. >> greta: straight ahead who, is behind the recent and dangerous national security leaks? senator dianne feinstein giving an answer that is surprising a lot of people. what did she say? is she take -- sticking by it? and brace yourself, is your
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>> greta: is the white house feeling pressure isn't war of words over the national security leaks is heating up. the latest round starting from senator dianne feinstein? >> i think the white house has to understand that some of this is coming from its ranks. i don't building for a moment he goes out and talks about it. i don't believe the briefer goes out and talk about it. but who knows who else? >> greta: today on the campaign trail, governor mitt romney using senator dianne feinstein's comments. >> this isn't a partisan issue. it's a national security crisis. just yesterday, democratic senator dianne feinstein, who's chairman of the senate intelligence committee said, and
i quote, i think the white house has to understand that some of this is coming from their ranks. end of quote. this conduct is contemptible. whoever provided classified information to the media, seeking political advantage for the administration must be exposed, dismissed and punished. the time for stonewalling is over. >> greta: late tonight, senator feinstein, firing back, saying she is disappointed by governor romney. he issued a statement saying, in part, i stated that i did not believe the president leaked classified information. i shouldn't have speculated beyond that. because of the fact of that, i don't know the source of the leaks. senator graham is here. that was a good backpedal. have you to givier credit. >> i have been in her position, where you criticize your own party and the other guys try to use it against you. but dianne feinstein has been a stand-up person here. it's clear to me that the leaks coming out of the white house
were orchestrated to create a political advantage for the president. romney is right. within 45 days, huthree articles talking about obama being a decisive leader, choosing the kill list himself, the cia efforts to dysdisrupt the iranian nuclear program and a big story about how we infiltrated an al qaeda team in yi men -- yemen. the theme is that this is a strong national security presidency. every story quoted high senior-level white house officials. diane's right. this is come from this white house. but the question is, why? i think the reason the leaks came out so quickly, 45 days apart, is to paint a narrative that this is a strong administration on national security. and it's really hurt our national security. >> greta: when are we going to get to the bottom of it? >> with eric holder picking two u.s. assistance attorneys, one who gave mon tote balm -- obama
administration. >> greta: and another one appoint bide president bush. >> when biden and obama were senators, they said that you cannot investigate bernie madoff without a special counsel. and biden said you can't do the crirks ooha torture tape without a special counsel. >> greta: let me say -- if you get a special prosecutor, anything like that, you are writing a blank check. it is going to go on forever! we did this thing, the valerie plame thing went on endlessly. the prosecutor knew three months later i. it is not how long it goes on, it is what you end up with. a let of people believe the bush administration would have not investigated itself without a special counsel. i understand where they are coming from. now the shoe's on the other foot. every democrat who wrote letters to bush saying you have to have a independent counsel -- they
look like hypocrites. but it is not about -- it is not about hypocrites. there are a lot of hypocrites in washington. it is the smartest, best, fastest way to get to the bottom of this. >> the smartest, best, fastest way to get to the bottom of anything this plonumental. this is the most devastating event in our national security in decades. dianne feinstein has been saying for months, we had to extract people from yemen, family members of this alleged double agent. i cannot tell you the damage we have done with our relationship -- >> greta: let me get back to it -- >> the fastest, best way is to do it right. why is senator dianne feinstein backpedalling? she looks like she got heat -- >> she we are 3 months away from an election -- >> greta: that's terrible! that's a terrible excuse! >> all i can tell you, he is right to say that the white house -- all the evidence leads to the white house.
i don't know wlat president said. but i know this, this was an orchestrated campaign by somebody at the highest levels of government for a political purpose. we'll never get the answer, having eric holder -- >> greta: we will never get the facts if we have u.s. senators running for cover because the election's coming up. we'll never get an answer. every u.s. senator is appalled and thinks this is such a national security risk -- >> dianne feinstein spoke truth to power. she's backing up because romney uses her comments. but governor romney was right to tell the american legion and the country that what the president's team did was unconscionable. she has incredible stature. she is in california. she won't get voted out. if this is such a serious issue,s not a time to backpedal -- >> my problem is not with her, it's with -- >> greta: mine is too. but the only know only one who s
the real power to put the pressure on those who might have that information or might do somethingism the one with the real power here is the president of the united states. >> greta: of course, he difficulty you know what he should say? listen, when i was a senator, i did not tolerate the white house investigating itself regarding national security situations like valerie plame. now that he's the president of the united states, he promised the most transparent administration that we'll not cover things up. i am calm calling on him and vice-president bide tone do on your watch what you wanted bush to do when you were senators. you are creating a process with very little if no confidence. this is a big deal. you are allowing -- the attorney general to investigate your administration, where no republican trust his guy. so step up to the plate and do what you did when you were senators. you questioned bush's ability to impartially investigate himself. i am questioning your ability to
impartially investigate yourself. this is not about dianne feinstein. this is about joe biden and barack obama doing on their watch what they would not accept from the republican administration. you know what? i have no quarrel with challenging bush to open his investigation up to an independent agent. i have a real problem allowing this white house to investigate itself. this is a very big deal. people's lives are at risk. we have compromised our national security. i will be very disappointed in the republican party if we let them get away with this. good job today, governor romney. >> greta: senator, thank you. i likewise think the president could force this administration administration -- this investigation. >> i am calling on him right now to do on your watch what you insisted of others. you are letting the country down having an investigation that reasonable people cannot trust. mr. president, do your job! clear the air. >> greta: thank you, sir. >> thank you. >> greta: coming up. new numbers, congressional budget scorekeepers released new
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what will happen when obamacare kicks in. have you figured out how it will affect you? >> i think the health care reform legislation has really already begun to impact us. in the last two years, our health care premiums, the first two years ago went up 18% and last year, 12%. it was one of those startling, oh, my goodness, this can't be happening. from the beginning, vitried to provide health insurance for my teachers so they could have access to health care with limited out-of-pocket expenses. but when these expenses came, i was forced to do something that i had never had to do, which is provide health care deductibles. our teachers are preschool teachers and education does not pay a lot. so this was a devastating move on my part. now, with the increasing... uncertainty of what our health care premiums will be between now and 2014, i am wondering
what does that mean? when it gets to 2014 and i have to make a decision at that point. do i continue to pay high, increasingly high premiums and retain health care coverage for my employees so that my teachers have health care insurance within our company? or do i say, this is more than than our bottom line can bear. we need to save this money to invest into our schools and into our programs. there are exchanges available to you. and so i can say to my teachers, go to the exchange and get health care. for that, i must pay a $2,000 penalty. but the bottom line savings from paying a penalty versus paying what i am paying now could be up to $300,000 by then. that's a business decision that i must make. do i save that money and invest it in my schools? or do i send -- do i keep the
insurance so that perhaps i can be more competitive in the marketplace and attract better teachers for our schools? it's an incredibly difficult decision. what is the right thing to do? i am not the only one with this decision to make. there are many other mid-size businesses like mine that have 50 or more employees that must make that kind of a decision. >> >> gail. thank you. that's been very helpful to try to understand what small business people are going through. thank you, gail. >> thank you. >> how will president obama's health care law affect the federal deficit in for the first time since the supreme court upheld most of the law, the congress and budget scorekeepers are releasing a report. sam baker is here. what's the latest? after the supreme court decision, what will happen? costs, up, down? deficits, up, down? >> the cbo, the ckal budget
office says that the health care law, the affordable care act will continue to decrease the deficit and it got a little less expensive since the supreme court decision. >> how is it -- how can could it become -- what was it about the supreme court dision that make its less expensive? >> it got less expensive because it got less effective. tell cover 3 million fewer people, as a result of the supreme court say that this states have to have the option of opting out of the medicaid expansion. a lot of republican governors have already said that they intend to take that option, to opt out. and that will leave 6 million people without medicaid who otherwise would have gotten it. about 3 million will have another option -- >> this is what i don't understand. let's say there are 3 million unemployed and the 3 million get in a car accident and 3 million show up at the hospital. someone has to pay for that. it's not like, you know, they won't get care eye want people to get care. don't get me wrong.
but who's paying for ha? >> we are all paying through premiums and through medicaid. you are right, they will have access to care -- >> so it's a different -- it's a distribution of how it's paid? >> that's true. >> is that a fair description? >> absolutely. that was one of the reasons that the individual mandate which was so controversial was included in the affordable care act, was to try to bring those people into the system so we are not all just carrying this catastrophic burden. >> but the problem with the individual mandate, let's say i'm 25 yearsole. i feel healthy. why should i buy health insurance and i know if i get sick, i can buy the mandate, how am i going to get caught? how are you going to catch me? >> the irs is in charge of enforcing. >> how do they catch me? >> it's an i.t. thing, they will catch it on your tax filing -- >> how?! how in the world are they going to catch me? for the life of me, i can't figure out how they would catch me. is at this time honor system?
>> not quite. they are buildings up a pretty significant enforcement capacity, mostly through checking on returns. >> if i don't file a tax return? >> if you don't have to file a tax return, you probably aren't subject to the mandate. if you just don't file a tax return, have you bigger problems than health care. >> i think the cost gets pushed around in all directions. the cost is finite. it's which category do pee -- do we put it in? >> that's a pretty accurate description of how it works. >> sam, thank you. >> thank you. >> coming up, who was president obama spotted mingling with in a pricey campaign event? could it do more harm than good to his campaign? in two minutes, gridlock in washington. it is not only frustrating. it's expensive. you won't believe how much it's costing you. two minutes awasm -- away. [ male announcer ] at scottrade,
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intense fire for the failed loan to the belly-up solyndra. so is it smart to appear in a $35,000 a plate fund-raise wer two key players in the solyndra mess? he was hob knobbing with the supporters, including two key figures. who were they? abc news editor rick klein is here. okay. who were they? >> faces in the crowd. steve wesley is one, a well-known venture capitalist. he was so close to the inner circle, he was raising flags about solyndra. he knew based upon his contacts that there was a problem -- >> greta: he get ace gold star. he tried. >> he tried to stop it or warn the white house. but another figure was matt rogers, a former department of energy official. he was in charge of getting the money out the door to companies like solyndra, despite the push-back in this case from the
office management and budget. he is a critical figure in trying to expedite the loan and getting the money out to the company. >> greta: two big questions. if steve wesley is smart enough to know it's a bad deal and he emails valerie jaret and this cost taxpayers more than 500 million, how come she's still at her job? >> big red flags. >> greta: why does she have a job? she's exclusive -- >> these are companies get the private money. so a company like solyndra comes forward and says, we have this great technology, but if we just got the seed money. >> greta: but she was warned! that's my first question. the second question, matt rogers who worked at the department of energy. is he a rich guy? i understand why steve wesley has the money, but how does a guy go from a government job to afford a $35,000-a-plate fund-raiser? >> he went to consulting.
it is an example of the revolving door -- >> greta: was it in solar energy? >> no. but i has a lot of contacts in this world. for him, this is an example of the revolving door and the very tight web, the interconnectedness of all of these energy official, people inside the government, outside the government, at omb, people saying, wait a second, let's put the brakes on this and people putting intense pressure on it. and there is a web of folks that are highly interconnected. >> greta: i want to find alternative energy. i want to get us off foreign oil. i would love to make solar energy really be efficient. but when you have such stupid decisions and we spend $500 million in a company where we can get the product cheaper somewhere else and have you steve wesley warning somebody so close to the president saying, don't do it. and she doesn't tell the president or he said, we don't care. they set the back alternative energy decades.
>> this is everything for president obama. this is stimulus, clean energy, it was supposed to be jobs, so for this to fall as flat as it did it was particularly difficult. that's why the republicans are trying to make this famous. >> greta: but some business deals go belly up. this wasn't one of those. this is a decision where it was so obvious from the get go and they had a warning and they did it anyway. >> that's why the republicans are so keen to publicize solyndra. >> greta: everybody in favor of getting off foreign oil should be upset. >> the president has said, don't -- hindsight 20/20. he thinks had went through the appropriate process. s this is a spectacularly bad example. >> greta: but this was a don't right from the get go. thanks. nice to see you. >> thanks. >> greta: beyonce says her stiffest competition is a 16-year-old boy. wait until you see the amazing
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tonight at 8:00. >> hello, i'm andrea tantaros with bob beckel, eric boling, dana perino and greg gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." president obama has taken a lot of heat for his now infamous you didn't build that comment to american businessmen and entrepreneurs. the latest line, now blame mitt romney. >> governor romney was at it again. knowingly twisting my words around to suggest i don't value small businesses. now, you know, look, in politics we tolerate a certain amount of spin. i understand these are the games that get played in political campaigns. although when folks just like omit entire sentences of what
you said they start splicing and dicing, you may have gone over the edge there. >> splicing and dicing. now folks, you've heard the quote in its entirety. can't blame bush, can't blame wall street, can't blame congress so now it's mitt romney's fault. >> you can blame wall street and congress but what the president said was he talked about the words just before he said that was about roads. then he said you didn't build those. he was talking about roads. so the idea that mitt romney and the republicans would take this and spin it around and try to make it a big deal is obscene and it is lying. >> can i make a point? >> because if you look at the sentence structure and diagram it, the word that is closer to the word businesses. if the president